Pierre Kory interview on Jimmy Dore
22 March 2025
[Jimmy Dore]
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Introduction of Dr. Pierre Kory
We have a special guest with us, Dr. Pierre Kory is here. That's why we're on rumble because he's a criminal and he says a lot of bad things. He's a pulmonary and critical care medical specialist and former associate professor and chief of the critical care service at the University of Wisconsin. He's the founder of Leading Edge Clinic, which specializes in treatment of COVID-19, long COVID, and vaccine injury syndromes. He's also the author of The War on Ivermectin, the medicine that saved millions and could have ended the pandemic. And his writings currently appear on his sub stack at pierrekorymedicalmusings.com. Welcome back to the show, Dr. Pierre Kory. Hey, doctor, how are you?
[Dr. Pierre Kory]
Dr. Kory's Board Certifications Revoked
I'm doing all right. Thanks, Jimmy. You know, you forgot to mention in my intro that my board certifications were revoked.
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Everyone else seems to like to remind everyone of that. We're being a misinformationist, Jimmy.
[Jimmy Dore]
Oh, right. So that's, you know, I had Cheryl Atkinson on Wednesday, yeah, Wednesday, and she talked about how, you know, the corruption of all that, the medical journals, the medical boards, the teaching hospitals, the everything. Of course, she calls the CDC the Center for Data Control. That's what she calls it.
[Dr. Pierre Kory]
Weaponization of Medical Institutions
They've all been weaponized against dissent, Jimmy.
[Jimmy Dore]
Yeah, and so that's how they keep doctors in line. And when a doctor like you tells the truth that goes against big pharma or the medical establishment, they get the medical boards to come down on you. And it's not necessarily about you specifically, but it's like Julian Assange. You're like the Julian Assange of doctors. It's warning to all the other doctors. Don't you dare think for yourself or go outside the box or do actual science.
[Dr. Pierre Kory]
One hundred percent, Jimmy.
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And I was just telling someone the other day, it wasn't, they didn't do this to hurt me or punish me. They did this to send a message to others. You do what this guy did, speak loudly and openly and publicly, contradicting our policies and opinions, this is what happens. And you're going to just get more lambs.
[Jimmy Dore]
Impact on Dr. Kory's Practice
Yeah, because it hasn't, you're still a practicing doctor. You're going to be, you have a backlog of patients that want to line up to see you because you do great work. And so they can take away those certifications and it doesn't really affect you one way or the other.
[Dr. Pierre Kory]
Yeah, no, that is important. I think people always think that I lost my license to practice medicine. I didn't. And those are just specialty board certifications, which is somewhat of an accolade. But guess what? Guess what? They've also weaponized that, Jimmy. You know, in the past, board certification was just kind of like a little badge that you could wear on your chest to make it seem like you were somehow some higher level of doctor.
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But now they make board certification a requirement to work for many hospitals, all academic medical centers. You have to be board certified. Many insurance plans, you have to be board certified. So, but luckily for me, I left the system as I'm in private practice. I'm fee based. I don't need insurance coverage. And so luckily it didn't have material kind of impacts on me except for one.
Damage to Credibility
And that is, and this is another thing they're trying to do is damage my credibility. So I used to do a lot of malpractice cases as an expert, as well as I've been doing a lot of doctor defenses. So a lot of my colleagues have lost their licenses for prescribing like ivermectin and COVID, you know, like Ryan Cole and Meryl Nass. You know, when I do expert testimony now, the other side, that lawyer, what's the first thing they go after? They go after the fact that I had my boards revoked. And you see it in newspapers, you know, in this case, I think we're going to talk about, you know, the mainstream media, like that's like the first line they bring up is the fact that I'm, you know, this discredited board certified revoked doctor.
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[Jimmy Dore]
Okay. Yeah. So, okay. So, so, but that's, that's the part that really scares other doctors.
[Dr. Pierre Kory]
Yeah, for sure.
[Jimmy Dore]
Measles Scare and Media Misinformation
So I want, I'm bringing you on today because I wanted to talk about this latest measles scare and, and they've used this, even though we've had plenty of measles outbreaks, right? We've had plenty of measles outbreaks. I don't have it in here, but I thought I did. We, all the time without, but, and now that we have one under RFK Jr., they're using it to call him a quack. So they're saying quack is at it again. There's the headline in the Huffington Post. Here's some more headlines. Without offering proof, Kennedy links measles outbreak to poor diet and health. Fact check, RFK misleads on vitamin A and unsupported therapies for measles. Opinion. I'm a doctor. Don't fall for the myth about vitamin A and measles.
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And I just want to show you the myth they're talking about.
Oxford Journal on Vitamin A and Measles
I looked up in the Oxford International Journal of Epidemiology and it talked about the effectiveness of measles vaccination and vitamin A. And if you look down here, it says their conclusion, measles vaccine and vitamin A treatment are effective interventions to prevent measles mortality. So you can keep believing, you can keep believing the Huffington Post or the NBC News, or, or you can believe the Oxford Medical Journal or me. And I would go with me. And I just want to talk a bit, get to back to this measles here. Even, uh, uh, the big Charleston, my favorite American Indian, um, uh, Elizabeth Warren, uh, she, she waited on it.
[Elizabeth Warren]
Elizabeth Warren on Measles Death
And said a child dying of measles in the United States was quote, not unusual. Really? We just had a child die from measles, the first measles death in our country in almost a decade. Maybe instead of telling people that the best defense against the disease is a bunch of vitamins, he should put his full and clear support behind the science backed best defense against measles, the measles vaccine.
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[Jimmy Dore]
NBC News on Anti-Vaccine Movement
Okay. So she, you know, her and her science here's NBC News says, so this girl died and they said she died of measles and NBC News says how the anti-vaccine movement weaponized the six-year-old's measles death. And here it is without evidence influencers at children's health defense and beyond have reframed the tragedy of the girl's death. That's proof of the efficacy of unproven cures like vitamin A. Now I got to just show you this again. There's the, it is the conclusion it's effective, but this is NBC News. Remember people will lie to you about war, lie to you about Ukraine, lie to you about Syria, Libya, COVID, and now they're lying to you about measles and they say it's an unproven and it's a maltreat. They say a maltreatment. Okay. So now I'm going to bring in Dr. Pierre Corey.
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Now, Dr. Pierre Corey, did that girl die from measles?
[Dr. Pierre Kory]
Dr. Kory on the Texas Girl's Death
Absolutely not. Sorry to get the truth in the way of their propaganda, but you know, let me say this, Jimmy, first of all, I want to give credit to children's health defense, an incredible organization. They, they were actually Brian Hooker, one of their chief scientific officers, you know, went down there, what reached out to the community and, you know, supported the parents and, you know, tried to find out kind of what was really happening and how they could help with along with a doctor, a local doctor down there named Ben Edwards. And, you know, through the, their kind of involvement, the parents actually decided to release the medical records of the child to children's health defense. And then I was asked to consult and I've done malpractice reviews my entire career as an expert in my field, which is pulmonary and critical care. And I reviewed the records very carefully, and this had very little to do with measles.
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First of all, as an outpatient, her measles lesions were clearing up. She was getting better.
Secondary Bacterial Pneumonia
Then she developed what was kind of what we would call in medicine, a slam dunk pneumonia. And what she really had was a secondary bacterial pneumonia, which can happen after any virus. I have a child who's even gotten a secondary bacterial pneumonia after the flu one year. So this is, that's what I'm saying, it's relatively independent of measles. It's just something that happens after you have a viral infection. And to give credit to the hospital, they correctly diagnosed her. They literally on their admission evaluation, they wrote secondary bacterial pneumonia. And actually to your point about vitamin A, Jimmy, I'll give them another point. Despite the mainstream media's haranguing about vitamin A, they actually gave the child vitamin A, which is good. All right? So we're doing good so far. Correct diagnosis, gave vitamin A because she had, you know, coincident measles.
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Incorrect Antibiotic Treatment
But then the story kind of turns really unfortunate, which is that the antibiotics they selected did not cover the organism she had. And she had one of the most common organisms in what's called community acquired pneumonia. So when you have a child who lives not in a facility, not in another institution, hasn't been in the hospital recently, that's called community acquired pneumonia. And the organisms that involve are pretty common. And hers was called mycoplasma. The problem is the drug that you need for mycoplasma is essentially azithromycin, which is what's called a macrolide. Z-Pak, Jimmy, a Z-Pak, okay? And what they treated her with was, and you're supposed to always treat community acquired pneumonia, you treat them empirically. Tell me if I'm getting too geeky. Dr. Justin Marchegiani No, no. Go ahead. You got it. Dr. Andrew Hill Right. So when you see someone with pneumonia, obviously you don't know what the organism is, right?
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You can make the diagnosis on a clinical basis, but you can't make it on a microbiological basis. So you put them on a regimen which broadly covers all possibilities, okay? And the standard, this is in guidelines from the Infectious Disease Society of America, from the American Association of Family Physicians, I could list many different organizations. They all have almost identical guidelines for the treatment of community acquired pneumonia, which is the combination of what's called a beta-lactam, which is penicillin or cephalosporin, and a macrolide or quinolone, which is azithromycin or Cipro. And what they chose was like two beta-lactams. They chose ceftriaxone and vancomycin. Vancomycin treats kind of severely drug-resistant organisms like MRSA and other things. But in that coverage that they thought was super broad, they missed like a simple choice, which is like kind of medicine 101 for community acquired pneumonia. And so it was unfortunately a medical error that caused this, and the child continued to decline rather rapidly.
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Delay in Correct Treatment
And the other real tragedy about this, Jimmy, is macrolides or azithromycin, they have really good lung penetration into the tissues, and they're highly effective against mycoplasma. And so she was in the hospital declining, landed on a ventilator, and then finally a test comes back positive for mycoplasma, and they ordered azithromycin at 11 p.m. at night. She didn't, as far as I can tell from the record, because sometimes the timing on records isn't always perfect, but it looks like it took 10 hours to get that child their first dose of azithromycin, and then they unfortunately died in multi-organ failure less than a day later.
[Jimmy Dore]
Dr. Kory's Medical Opinion
So it's your medical opinion that she didn't die directly from measles. She died from a secondary infection, which was a pneumonia caused often after someone gets a virus.
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And then she wasn't treated correctly.
[Dr. Pierre Kory]
Yes. They missed a standard antibiotic regimen for whatever reason they did not use. And by the way, like in the business, as you say, you know, doctors, we use a lot of acronyms and sort of short, you know, nicknames. We call it Cef and Azithro, right, for ceftriaxone and azithromycin. So like you just put all these patients on Cef and Azithro, Cef and Azithro, Cef and Azithro. Here they chose Cef and Vanco. And if you allow me to get geeky again, I don't know how much science you want to go into here, Jimmy, but the reason for that is that beta-lactams, like the penicillins and the cephalosporins, they work by destroying the bacterial cell wall. Guess what? Mycoplasma doesn't have a cell wall. And so the way in which you attack a bug that doesn't have a cell wall is you use an antibiotic which interferes with protein synthesis, like the DNA ribosome.
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And they used two beta-lactams instead of one that goes after organisms without a cell wall. And now I'm just going into mechanisms of why their treatment didn't work and why it was a poor choice. And, you know, I want to say this. I've made a couple of errors in my career and kept me up at night. Luckily, I don't believe that those errors caused grievous harm, but I remember not being able to tell. I was in the ICU. I wanted to give a patient a treatment and it somehow slipped my mind for like six hours. And I remember just feeling terrible. And so, like, I'm not here to bash those doctors. I think it's, you know, mistakes happen. Sometimes we make the wrong choice. And looking back, we learn that, you know, maybe we could have done this instead of that. And so, I feel bad for those doctors because, unfortunately, their error, which I don't think had any malevolence to it, it was just a clinical error.
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And, unfortunately, it led to the death of a child.
[Jimmy Dore]
And so, why do you think those, so now it's ubiquitous across the media, social media, that that girl died from measles and it's RFK's fault and the anti-vaxxers' fault because that girl wasn't vaccinated against measles.
Why Doctors Aren't Correcting the Record
And so, why do you think that the doctors, like, so, if you examine the doctor's records and you're able to figure out exactly what happened, so they know exactly what happened, and do you think the reason why they're not coming out to correct the record that she didn't die from measles is because, well, why do you think?
[Dr. Pierre Kory]
Media Propaganda
Well, I mean, I think I'm in the right place to be real here, Jimmy. I mean, the media is not about the truth. I mean, it's about propaganda. It's about, you know, objectives that they'll use any information however they want to achieve their aims. So, I don't look for the mainstream media for accuracy or truth.
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But what I, what I really, it gets me angry is that they're misusing this case, right, in order to promote vaccines, right? That's their objective, right? They want to get as many vaccines. They want everyone thinking that vaccines are critical, that you're going to die if you don't get one. I mean, it's a really great marketing strategy.
Teaching Point and Preventing Future Errors
But the other harm that we need to talk about is that this is a teaching point. People should learn from the mistake that was made in this case so it doesn't happen to other children. I mean, you know, maybe people, you know, doctors need a little crash course or review on how to treat community-acquired pneumonia. Because it's very simple. I mean, what I outlined to you, Jimmy, it's like, I mean, since day one that I've been a lung doctor, that's, my initial regimen is the one that covers all those bugs. And it wasn't done in this case. And I don't want that to happen again to any other child. And it was an unnecessary and preventable death.
[Jimmy Dore]
I mean, yeah, it's clear why the media doesn't want to correct their error.
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Because even, it's not an error in their eyes. Their eyes is they need to push propaganda that is pro-vaccine and pro-Big Pharma, which is what that is. But the doctors themselves, like they wouldn't say anything because are they afraid of a lawsuit? Like they, you would think someone interviewed those doctors and they would debunk this story. But that hasn't happened.
[Dr. Pierre Kory]
Doctors' Lack of Defense
No. I mean, the doctors unfortunately have no defense. This is not going to lead to a lawsuit. This is settled out of court. I'm sorry. I've done melt mouth practice for a while. This isn't something they want to go into a courtroom with.
[Jimmy Dore]
Right. And so if they did, if the doctors did come out and say, hey, it wasn't the measles, it was because we misprescribed her, that would make them look bad. And that's why they wouldn't want to debunk the story, right?
[Dr. Pierre Kory]
Hospital's Statement
Of course. But the hospital came out and gave a statement.
[Jimmy Dore]
Oh, did they?
[Dr. Pierre Kory]
In direct response to my to my video interview I did with Children's Health Events the other day.
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[Jimmy Dore]
Oh, really?
[Dr. Pierre Kory]
Yeah. They came out with an official statement. My colleagues sent it to me today. They said there is a video circulating online which states that, you know, that there was, you know, something wrong with the care. And then, you know, some PR person wrote, you know, we cannot comment on individual cases because it's confidential, but we want to ensure the public that we follow evidence based protocols that change with the evolving conditions of a patient in complex circumstances. Jimmy, that is an outright lie. That hospital is lying. They have no no documentation. I could see that they followed evidence based protocols, nor did they involve evolve with the care. But that's what the hospital is trying to say.
USA Today Interview
And and I'll give you some insider baseball, too. So USA Today reached out, tried to interview me in response, right, to this video, the interview that I did with Children's Health Defense.
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And the reporter asked my colleague who helps represent me a bunch of questions. And my colleague, you know, he said, how was this an error? Why is Dr. Corey saying this an error? So my colleague actually gave the reporter the links to the guidelines for the treatment of community-acquired pneumonia, told them what the child had gotten. And guess what, Jimmy? What showed up in the USA Today article? That didn't show up at all. Only the hospital's press release statement and the reminder, everyone, that I have had my boards revoked. That's right.
[Jimmy Dore]
OK.
Encouragement to Get Measles Vaccine
OK. And and I'm sure an encouragement to get your measles vaccine, correct? Of course. Of course. All right. Well, I appreciate you making yourself available to come on and set the story record straight because you have to come to shows like this to get that record set straight.
Historical Measles Vaccination Rates
But I just want to just to go a little bit further with this story.
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Jessica Rojas tweeted out, fun fact, in 1986, only 67 percent of the people were vaccinated against the measles. And we had over 10,000 cases of measles, but zero deaths. Isn't that interesting? So that their whole thing is you have to get everybody vaccinated. So then she tweets out this chart. The chart below is probably the one that surprises people the most. Note that this chart was produced by the CDC. I just added some personal commentary in the red boxes. What you can see is that even as late as the early 1980s, children were really only receiving seven vaccines in the United States. The DTP, polio and MMR and vaccination rates for children were somewhere between 50 and 60 percent. So only around half the children were getting these vaccines nationally, yet people were not dropping like flies from measles. Isn't that funny that only half the people, kids were vaccinated and they weren't?
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And so she shows that for decades, only 30 to 40 percent of the people, 30 to 40 percent of the unvaccinated population, no epidemics, right? And then over here, she points out that 90 percent plus coverage rates we see today, 90 percent of the people having the uptake of the vaccines were first achieved in the late 90s and are the result of the convergence of three programs, school attendance requirements, which began in the late 70s, the near complete identification for liability of vaccine manufacturers and administrations by the NVICP, the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program in 1988, and the VFC, the Vaccines for Children, a funding scheme whereby the government buys and provides all required vaccines since 1993. Required vaccines are now legislated purchases. So the point of all that is to show you how we got, before we didn't, before they did all those interventions, made the, it mandatory, made the vaccines free at point of injection and gave complete immunity to the big pharma, did we reach this 90 percent of people vaccinated?
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Before, it was between 50 and 60 percent of people and nobody was dying of measles. Isn't that interesting? Would you like to comment on any of that?
[Dr. Pierre Kory]
Mainstream Media and Pharma
I mean, all you're giving examples, Jimmy, is just, you know, you're just putting out facts and truth and how it's completely discordant and contradicts the mass media hysteria and craze. And there's no such thing as a science reporter anymore. Like, there's no one who's, you know, I'm sorry, I'm just going to go further here, Jimmy, and I'm not going to say anything you haven't said, but it's clear if you follow the money trail, mainstream media literally works for pharma. That is their boss. You think you're going to run around publishing articles attacking your boss who's paying your salary?
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I mean, look at this reporter from USA Today. I mean, the way he behaved, it's so clear. I'm going to go probably pretty strongly. I mean, he acts like a prostitute. I mean, he's selling himself. I mean, he's basically putting lies, misrepresentations, and distortions into the largest circulation newspaper in order to uphold these narratives and propaganda that you absolutely need a vaccine and everybody needs to get vaccinated. And it's disgusting. And I just hope there are more voices like yours out there calling them out on this.
Trust in Media Declining
And, you know, I wrote something a few weeks ago and I was looking into data about trust in the media. You may know this, Jimmy, but for the first time in recorded history where they've done these surveys, has the proportion of Americans who don't believe in the mainstream media at all, it now exceeds those who believe in them or somewhat believe in them.
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So the highest proportion of our society now does not believe in the media at all. And I hope those numbers keep rising because of this nonsense that they're pulling around this case.
[Jimmy Dore]
Personal Experiences with Media Lies
Well, it's, I think, enough for people. So if you've ever been, I remember the first time I was involved in a news story, it makes you realize like, oh, they don't know anything of what they're talking about and they just make up their own story. So, and, you know, but my whole life reading news articles, I didn't realize this until you're the center of one of them. And then you see, oh, this is how it works. And so I think because of COVID, enough people were kind of by proxy in the center of these articles and they could see that these articles were lies and how they were concocted propaganda. And so I think that led to the statistic that you just quoted, because most people live through COVID were victims of the policies of COVID and they were able to see the propaganda being pushed on them was lies.
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And so that's where that stat comes from. That's my, that would be my, my guess.
[Dr. Pierre Kory]
COVID and Direct Lived Experience
That was brilliantly said. I would say it, I'm probably going to be a little redundant, but like, it's because they're direct lived experience, right? So for instance, those who, you know, were crazy enough to take the horse paste and suddenly got quickly better. And yet now they realize, wow, that doctor really helped me with ivermectin. I feel better. And now they're directly experience is being contradicted by the haranguing from mainstream media that is spewing disinformation. And it's not just, if you got better from ivermectin, it's for instance, the legions of vaccine injured who then look at the mainstream media and they're being told constantly that it's safe and effective. Meanwhile, they've gotten COVID four times and they can't move the right side of their face. Right? So it's like, you know, yes, you're right. COVID because of that, such a stark contradiction from direct lived experience. Now you can tell that they learned the lesson that media will lie without with impunity.
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I mean, it's, it's gotten so ridiculous. I mean, I read mainstream media now for maybe half entertainment, half opposite opposition research. I'm like, what kind of lies are they telling that I have to debunk, you know, to try to protect people? Because Jimmy, you may know this, but in my career, I was considered like a master educator. I won teaching awards at all the institutions I was at. And I love teaching because I really think good information and teaching people things will make their lives better. And, and in this era of just unrelenting lies that are being spewed in order to attain these objectives I want to put out good, clear evidence-based data driven facts. And I think you do a good job of that too.
[Jimmy Dore]
Juxtaposing Media Treatment of Measles
I just want to read, but thank you. I'll take the compliment. I just wanted to, I don't know if you've seen this video, someone put together juxtaposing how the mainstream media used to treat measles as almost a joke and how they treat it now as if it's Ebola and AIDS.
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So let me just, I'd like to play this. Let's play it again. Here's the Brady Bunch.
[Unidentified Actor]
Peter, what are you doing home from school? They sent me home. Measles. That's either measles or a strange case of red freckles. You have got a temperature. They told me 101.1. What's the record? Nevermind. Are you sure it's the measles? Well, he certainly got all the symptoms, a slight temperature, a lot of dots and a great big smile. A great big smile. No school for a few days. Say hello to my dotted son for me. Tell him I'll bring him some comic books and I'll see you later, dear. Okay, honey. Bye. Boy, this is the life, isn't it? Yeah. If you have to get sick, you sure can't beat the measles. That's right. No medicine. Inside or out. Like shots, I mean. Don't even mention shots. Yes.
[Jimmy Dore]
So that's how they used to treat when I was a kid. That's how people generally dealt with measles as kind of a joke and a reason for kids to stay home and read comic books and have a few days off of school.
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Now this is how they treat it.
[Unidentified Actor]
How do you feel? I'm fine. Dad says I should go to school. Seven students confirmed with measles, four others possible. How? They had to have been vaccinated.
[Elizabeth Warren]
These moms never vaccinated their kids and lied about it. Vaccines are harmful. You are endangering the health of every child in this city. Liv, no, it's turning blue. Call 9-1-1.
[Unidentified Actor]
All new SVU, next Wednesday at 9, 8, 7.
[Dr. Pierre Kory]
Measles Turned into Ebola
Sorry, Jimmy. I'm trying not to laugh. That is absolutely incredible. So basically, they've turned measles into Ebola?
[Jimmy Dore]
Yeah. That's what they've done. Had you not seen that before?
[Dr. Pierre Kory]
I'm so blown away by that. It shouldn't be funny, but let's try to laugh about this. It's absolutely a joke.
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[Jimmy Dore]
Elizabeth Warren Attacking RFK Jr.
And I just want to show you this quick tweet about Elizabeth Warren. Elizabeth Warren is once again attacking RFK Jr. this time over measles. Interesting how she never criticized the former HHS secretary for any of the 16 measles outbreaks in the U.S. just last year. For the record, Senator RFK recommends vitamins for children currently battling measles. The measles vaccine cannot be administered to an actively infected child. That's dangerous. But Warren wouldn't know that. Despite her newfound health guru persona, she hasn't spent more than five minutes researching the topic. She knows that attacking RFK Jr. gets clicks and donations. It's pathetic. It's funny how Elizabeth Warren claims she cares about kids, and it took her, I don't know, a year and a half to call for a vaccine.
Attacking Parents of Deceased Girl
And now they're attacking the parents of the girl who died.
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To let your six-year-old little girl die of measles because you listen to effing people like Marjorie Taylor Greene and RFK, the child's death is because of MAGA. So that's how they're spinning this now. Instead of no, she was incorrectly treated, and it was a secondary infection of pneumonia that caused her death.
[Dr. Pierre Kory]
That's- Jimmy, can I say something about that?
Parents' Wishes and Vaccine Injuries
Those parents are really some of the kindest, sweetest people. They wish no harm on anyone. What I learned from Dr. Ben Edwards, who treated this child's four siblings, who all had measles and all recovered really well, had no problems, their wish is really not to put blame on anyone or do anything. They just want people to learn from this. And what Ben Edwards said is one of the reasons that they're not vaccinated is because they had 16 vaccine injuries in their Mennonite community. And again, remember direct lived experience?
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I mean, that's a community who's seeing children getting vaccinated and getting injured. And so that's the other horror show about this vaccine discussion is never are the risks accurately, objectively discussed. They're always presented as this unmitigated good and benefit and life saving. When there's real downsides and injuries happen, they've been suppressed for decades. And we'll never have a fair and balanced discussion about this.
[Jimmy Dore]
Bought Media and Big Pharma Funding
And that is because of the bot media. You know, the CDC, I mean, the FDA gets 75% of its funding for its drug, part of the FDA that deals with drug approval, comes from Big Pharma. And 70% of the corporate media of the cable news network gets there. So exactly, they're paid to not tell you the truth about Big Pharma and their products and vaccines. And that's why people don't trust the media anymore.
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